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John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 5 @ 1:45 PM ET
John Jaeckel: Positional Reviews: Defensemen
tomkeav
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Anthem, AZ
Joined: 07.02.2014

May 5 @ 1:50 PM ET
First
VopatsRash
Nashville Predators
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 5 @ 1:54 PM ET
They look good. Would not change anything.
SRam19
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Messier the Greatest Canucks Captain
Joined: 02.12.2015

May 5 @ 1:58 PM ET
Keith always has a great year whenever the olympics are in the same season.
So expect a huge bounce back from him.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 5 @ 2:06 PM ET
JJ, are there any rumblings about Kempny's thoughts on his situation. I thought he had the option of going back (but that may have been only if they tried to send him down).

I would go all in with Kempny and Forsling, and maybe try to bring back Oduya. I don't see the utility of keeping Campbell around anymore.
Return of the Roar
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Solidly grounded in reality, IL
Joined: 07.27.2009

May 5 @ 2:14 PM ET
I could be wrong but I think it might be helpful to play defensemen on the side they are accustomed to playing their best hockey on. Duh.

57 is NOT and WILL NOT EVER be a top four guy. Why he was alongside Keith in game four down 3-0 against NSH was just incomprehensible.

Re-sign and coach up Kempny.

Keith - get your knee fixed.

Q - can we please allow the use of the body check on the walls, as well as to clear the crease? Teams have absoultely nothing to deter them from crashing the slot and the net.

D zone exits - can we also please do away with the no-look backhand passes to nowhere/the other team's players in high risk areas?

Stop collapsing. Cover and pursue the point men. Focusing 100% on lane blocking lets the point guys have the time and space to locate shots that bounce around in the form of intentional or unintentional redirects that are far harder to stop than shots the goalie can track.
BGKarras
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 06.19.2012

May 5 @ 2:15 PM ET
They look good. Would not change anything.
- VopatsRash

Go away Troll... Your sister is calling ya.
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 5 @ 2:17 PM ET
I could be wrong but I think it might be helpful to play defensemen on the side they are accustomed to playing their best hockey on. Duh.

57 is NOT and WILL NOT EVER be a top four guy. Why he was alongside Keith in game four down 3-0 against NSH was just incomprehensible.

Re-sign and coach up Kempny.

Keith - get your knee fixed.

Q - can we please allow the use of the body check on the walls, as well as to clear the crease? Teams have absoultely nothing to deter them from crashing the slot and the net.

D zone exits - can we also please do away with the no-look backhand passes to nowhere/the other team's players in high risk areas?

- Return of the Roar


... and that freakin drop pass, delayed entry nonsense. That is pure aggravation on my TV. (or at least don't telegraph it to Kane all the time)
kinigitt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: kahnawake, QC
Joined: 11.16.2015

May 5 @ 2:21 PM ET
... and that freakin drop pass, delayed entry nonsense. That is pure aggravation on my TV. (or at least don't telegraph it to Kane all the time)
- Chunk


If a drop pass isnt done at top speed. It shouldn't have been considered. Boring and stupid way to play
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 5 @ 2:27 PM ET
... and that freakin drop pass, delayed entry nonsense. That is pure aggravation on my TV. (or at least don't telegraph it to Kane all the time)
- Chunk



Yeah, but every team does it. Not sure whether out was the players or the coaches, but the Hawks always seemed to bollocks it up.
17SEC
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Limerick, PA
Joined: 09.16.2015

May 5 @ 2:34 PM ET
I could be wrong but I think it might be helpful to play defensemen on the side they are accustomed to playing their best hockey on. Duh.

57 is NOT and WILL NOT EVER be a top four guy. Why he was alongside Keith in game four down 3-0 against NSH was just incomprehensible.

Re-sign and coach up Kempny.

Keith - get your knee fixed.

Q - can we please allow the use of the body check on the walls, as well as to clear the crease? Teams have absoultely nothing to deter them from crashing the slot and the net.

D zone exits - can we also please do away with the no-look backhand passes to nowhere/the other team's players in high risk areas?

Stop collapsing. Cover and pursue the point men. Focusing 100% on lane blocking lets the point guys have the time and space to locate shots that bounce around in the form of intentional or unintentional redirects that are far harder to stop than shots the goalie can track.

- Return of the Roar



If only dreams can come true!!!!!
RedRevenge
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 04.18.2017

May 5 @ 2:36 PM ET
Trashville trolls never let up...

It's gonna be a shame if the preds don't win the cup
17SEC
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Limerick, PA
Joined: 09.16.2015

May 5 @ 2:43 PM ET
Trashville trolls never let up...

It's gonna be a shame if the preds don't win the cup

- RedRevenge


It would be poetic justice.....I just reported him/her.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 5 @ 2:56 PM ET
It would be poetic justice.....I just reported him/her.
- 17SEC



Thanks
jt19
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: LAINGSBURG, MI
Joined: 11.20.2008

May 5 @ 2:58 PM ET
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Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

May 5 @ 3:06 PM ET
Yeah, but every team does it. Not sure whether out was the players or the coaches, but the Hawks always seemed to bollocks it up.
- John Jaeckel


Oh absolutely every team does it. And, I'm not completely against using it occasionally, but they used it on a majority of the entries with Kane on the ice during PP's and a lot during 5V5 as well.
FourOrr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Libertyville, IL
Joined: 01.26.2012

May 5 @ 3:12 PM ET
Other than Seabrook none of the defenseman are physical (or perhaps they are instructed not to be?)
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 5 @ 3:19 PM ET
JJ great assessment. Our D pairings are the difference between good and great. They are good, however to be playoff great injurys need to heal, guys that are 3rd pair should skate 3rd pair, and oh if only one of a few could get in the hot tub time machine and get their wheels back..
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

May 5 @ 3:53 PM ET
JJ great assessment. Our D pairings are the difference between good and great. They are good, however to be playoff great injurys need to heal, guys that are 3rd pair should skate 3rd pair, and oh if only one of a few could get in the hot tub time machine and get their wheels back..
- riozzo



Thanks Rio.

Wait til tomorrow. The D is not the problem. What they had this year was fine, good enough for a deep run. Problems are upfront.

Bowman doesn't go around broadcasting what they are lacking. He plays it the other way: "everything's great, we love what we have."

Frankly, that's the smart way to play it—to a point. He knows, Q knows, most people around the league know what the Hawks have been lacking and where they've taken the biggest hit in the cap purges.

Where you can blame Bowman is, conceivably, did he overpay on some of these deals and hamstring his ability to fill out the forward corps especially.

And where does he go from here?
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 5 @ 3:56 PM ET
Thanks Rio.

Wait til tomorrow. The D is not the problem. What they had this year was fine, good enough for a deep run. Problems are upfront.

Bowman doesn't go around broadcasting what they are lacking. He plays it the other way: "everything's great, we love what we have."

Frankly, that's the smart way to play it—to a point. He knows, Q knows, most people around the league know what the Hawks have been lacking and where they've taken the biggest hit in the cap purges.

Where you can blame Bowman is, conceivably, did he overpay on some of these deals and hamstring his ability to fill out the forward corps especially.

And where does he go from here?

- John Jaeckel


He may not have a play or may need to channel his innermost PT Barnum.
walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

May 5 @ 3:59 PM ET
I wonder if decisions on D are are in a holding pattern until a new assistant coach is hired.
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

May 5 @ 4:14 PM ET
I wonder if decisions on D are are in a holding pattern until a new assistant coach is hired.
- walleyeb1



My guess is that the expansion draft and entry trade could be holding up any player decisions.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 5 @ 4:34 PM ET
My guess is that the expansion draft and entry trade could be holding up any player decisions.
- DarthKane


Did you just break your sarcasm rule?
kinigitt
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: kahnawake, QC
Joined: 11.16.2015

May 5 @ 4:37 PM ET
Did you just break your sarcasm rule?
- riozzo


U.O.I.

Unless otherwise indicated.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

May 5 @ 5:03 PM ET
It was a lack luster year for the defensive core offensively.

A few guys chipped in a bit more that typical but Keith paced the group with 6 goals and Seabrook was 5th on the D with 3 goals. Given the amount of PP time those two get, they (even with the Hawks somewhat weak net front presence) should have had a bit more impact offensively.

The Preds showed us all that the Hawks need to get younger on D. You can upgrade the forwards all you want, but the D didn't keep up well and couldn't move the puck.

This season the Hawks GAA was 3rd worst of these seasons since they been back in the playoffs in 2009. That is with CC and Darling playing some great hockey the majority of the time and often making some big time saves. Yes, defending is a team responsibility but it starts at the blue line. Keith struggled with his knee early on. Seabrook (especially in late 2016) was getting beat with speed. Campbell looked dis-interested and struggled down low. Kempny made mistakes that drove Q nuts. Hammer was pretty solid, but the guy will never have the offensive game to make him a top D. TVR isn't a top guy, but for the price he is okay in that 3rd pair. Forsling is still a bit green and I think some confidence would help him. Rosy should retire. Oduya isn't a top 4 anymore (nor was he in Dallas).
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